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RE: UK Stocks and ETFs - Watchlist and Discussion - gjjh25 - 2020-12-14

I use sharepad at the moment, and would be interested in trying to sort a market breadth indicator out with anyone interested. Or at least sector strength.


RE: UK Stocks and ETFs - Watchlist and Discussion - XTR - 2020-12-15

(2020-12-14, 09:09 PM)gjjh25 Wrote: I use sharepad at the moment, and would be interested in trying to sort a market breadth indicator out with anyone interested.  Or at least sector strength.


This is the package I'm considering as I'm told it can chart UK Sectors. I assume from your question that market breadth indicators are not included in SharePad's default library, do you know if it's possible to configure new indicators? 

Other systems I've seen are ShareScope and Updata, both look very comprehensive but are more than I want to spend. Another reason to stay with browser based systems is that I use Linux machines and installation software usually requires Windows or Mac environments.

I like the idea of developing my own charts like pcabc does, but I'd still need to source the feeds and I'm not sure I could commit the time and dedication to make it worthwhile.


RE: UK Stocks and ETFs - Watchlist and Discussion - pcabc - 2020-12-15

(2020-12-15, 12:38 AM)XTR Wrote:
(2020-12-14, 09:09 PM)gjjh25 Wrote: I use sharepad at the moment, and would be interested in trying to sort a market breadth indicator out with anyone interested.  Or at least sector strength.


This is the package I'm considering as I'm told it can chart UK Sectors. I assume from your question that market breadth indicators are not included in SharePad's default library, do you know if it's possible to configure new indicators? 

Other systems I've seen are ShareScope and Updata, both look very comprehensive but are more than I want to spend. Another reason to stay with browser based systems is that I use Linux machines and installation software usually requires Windows or Mac environments.

I like the idea of developing my own charts like pcabc does, but I'd still need to source the feeds and I'm not sure I could commit the time and dedication to make it worthwhile.

Be warned, I've probably spent 100's of hours doing it.  But then it is interesting to me.  From the time spent I would probably have made more money getting a paper round...

I use eodhistoricaldata.com for end of day data.  But I calculate the breadth myself.  The challenge will be seeing if you can find a data source for the UK breadth data, even better if it is in a charting package.  Realistically if you are not into coding don't even think about going down the route I went down.


RE: UK Stocks and ETFs - Watchlist and Discussion - gjjh25 - 2020-12-15

(2020-12-15, 12:38 AM)XTR Wrote:
(2020-12-14, 09:09 PM)gjjh25 Wrote: I use sharepad at the moment, and would be interested in trying to sort a market breadth indicator out with anyone interested.  Or at least sector strength.


This is the package I'm considering as I'm told it can chart UK Sectors. I assume from your question that market breadth indicators are not included in SharePad's default library, do you know if it's possible to configure new indicators? 

Other systems I've seen are ShareScope and Updata, both look very comprehensive but are more than I want to spend. Another reason to stay with browser based systems is that I use Linux machines and installation software usually requires Windows or Mac environments.

I like the idea of developing my own charts like pcabc does, but I'd still need to source the feeds and I'm not sure I could commit the time and dedication to make it worthwhile.

You can do simple formulas to compare two items in sharepad, but it is not programmable as such.  Isnt there also a problem with a Uk Market sector breadth as they do not contain as many shares as the US version?


RE: UK Stocks and ETFs - Watchlist and Discussion - XTR - 2020-12-15

(2020-12-15, 01:33 AM)pcabc Wrote:
(2020-12-15, 12:38 AM)XTR Wrote:
(2020-12-14, 09:09 PM)gjjh25 Wrote: I use sharepad at the moment, and would be interested in trying to sort a market breadth indicator out with anyone interested.  Or at least sector strength.


This is the package I'm considering as I'm told it can chart UK Sectors. I assume from your question that market breadth indicators are not included in SharePad's default library, do you know if it's possible to configure new indicators? 

Other systems I've seen are ShareScope and Updata, both look very comprehensive but are more than I want to spend. Another reason to stay with browser based systems is that I use Linux machines and installation software usually requires Windows or Mac environments.

I like the idea of developing my own charts like pcabc does, but I'd still need to source the feeds and I'm not sure I could commit the time and dedication to make it worthwhile.

Be warned, I've probably spent 100's of hours doing it.  But then it is interesting to me.  From the time spent I would probably have made more money getting a paper round...

I use eodhistoricaldata.com for end of day data.  But I calculate the breadth myself.  The challenge will be seeing if you can find a data source for the UK breadth data, even better if it is in a charting package.  Realistically if you are not into coding don't even think about going down the route I went down.
I take your point about getting into chart development and while it would be interesting I really don't have the time. 

Thanks for the data link, have you tried http://www.eoddata.com/products/historicaldata.aspx? May I ask what charting software you're using?

Ian


RE: UK Stocks and ETFs - Watchlist and Discussion - XTR - 2020-12-15

(2020-12-15, 05:39 PM)gjjh25 Wrote:
(2020-12-15, 12:38 AM)XTR Wrote:
(2020-12-14, 09:09 PM)gjjh25 Wrote: I use sharepad at the moment, and would be interested in trying to sort a market breadth indicator out with anyone interested.  Or at least sector strength.


This is the package I'm considering as I'm told it can chart UK Sectors. I assume from your question that market breadth indicators are not included in SharePad's default library, do you know if it's possible to configure new indicators? 

Other systems I've seen are ShareScope and Updata, both look very comprehensive but are more than I want to spend. Another reason to stay with browser based systems is that I use Linux machines and installation software usually requires Windows or Mac environments.

I like the idea of developing my own charts like pcabc does, but I'd still need to source the feeds and I'm not sure I could commit the time and dedication to make it worthwhile.

You can do simple formulas to compare two items in sharepad, but it is not programmable as such.  Isnt there also a problem with a Uk Market sector breadth as they do not contain as many shares as the US version?

Market breadth can get complex and there are 500+ page books on the subject. SW's 'Weight of the Evidence' approach used over 50 indicators, but as you say, UK indices are thinner than US markets, however, that is where the UK stocks are traded and there is still value in plotting basic information like: highs/lows, advancers/decliners, % above/below MA etc. to get a feel for market internals, especially as this information is readily available and in may cases free. 

I'd like to have a go at maintaining my own index charts for say FTSE 100, 250, 350, AIM markets and as long as it doesn't turn into too much of a chore, would be a good accompaniment to SharePad.


RE: UK Stocks and ETFs - Watchlist and Discussion - gjjh25 - 2020-12-15

(2020-12-15, 07:04 PM)XTR Wrote:
(2020-12-15, 05:39 PM)gjjh25 Wrote:
(2020-12-15, 12:38 AM)XTR Wrote:
(2020-12-14, 09:09 PM)gjjh25 Wrote: I use sharepad at the moment, and would be interested in trying to sort a market breadth indicator out with anyone interested.  Or at least sector strength.


This is the package I'm considering as I'm told it can chart UK Sectors. I assume from your question that market breadth indicators are not included in SharePad's default library, do you know if it's possible to configure new indicators? 

Other systems I've seen are ShareScope and Updata, both look very comprehensive but are more than I want to spend. Another reason to stay with browser based systems is that I use Linux machines and installation software usually requires Windows or Mac environments.

I like the idea of developing my own charts like pcabc does, but I'd still need to source the feeds and I'm not sure I could commit the time and dedication to make it worthwhile.

You can do simple formulas to compare two items in sharepad, but it is not programmable as such.  Isnt there also a problem with a Uk Market sector breadth as they do not contain as many shares as the US version?

Market breadth can get complex and there are 500+ page books on the subject. SW's 'Weight of the Evidence' approach used over 50 indicators, but as you say, UK indices are thinner than US markets, however, that is where the UK stocks are traded and there is still value in plotting basic information like: highs/lows, advancers/decliners, % above/below MA etc. to get a feel for market internals, especially as this information is readily available and in may cases free. 

I'd like to have a go at maintaining my own index charts for say FTSE 100, 250, 350, AIM markets and as long as it doesn't turn into too much of a chore, would be a good accompaniment to SharePad.
Any questions on Sharepad let me know and I will try not help. I have filters set up for above MA's, %change since 52 week low & high, and strength relative to indices. %


RE: UK Stocks and ETFs - Watchlist and Discussion - pcabc - 2020-12-15

(2020-12-15, 05:39 PM)gjjh25 Wrote:
(2020-12-15, 12:38 AM)XTR Wrote:
(2020-12-14, 09:09 PM)gjjh25 Wrote: I use sharepad at the moment, and would be interested in trying to sort a market breadth indicator out with anyone interested.  Or at least sector strength.


This is the package I'm considering as I'm told it can chart UK Sectors. I assume from your question that market breadth indicators are not included in SharePad's default library, do you know if it's possible to configure new indicators? 

Other systems I've seen are ShareScope and Updata, both look very comprehensive but are more than I want to spend. Another reason to stay with browser based systems is that I use Linux machines and installation software usually requires Windows or Mac environments.

I like the idea of developing my own charts like pcabc does, but I'd still need to source the feeds and I'm not sure I could commit the time and dedication to make it worthwhile.

You can do simple formulas to compare two items in sharepad, but it is not programmable as such.  Isnt there also a problem with a Uk Market sector breadth as they do not contain as many shares as the US version?

There are a couple of problems I find with the UK and yes, this is one of them.  I have a number of the NMX industry / sector indicies (I get the two terms confused, but I don't need to use them often).  Some are much bigger than others.  When I last looked 'Forestry and Paper' comprised of two stocks only.  Others are much larger.   There are more industries / sectors for fewer stocks.  Also, I have manged to find a source for mapping UK stock symbols to industry and sector, but these do not align with the NMX indicies that I have access to.  There does not seem to be an easy way to do things nicely, at least with what data I have at present.

I've not used sharepad so cannot comment.